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Philosophy and Cosmology
1. Each individual type in Nature is a stage in the cosmic embryology which culminates in human beings. Different species developed various "functions" that the Kmtians called "Neters," and have their apotheosis and integration in Conscious Human being. Functional consciousness is a way of knowing reality from the inside.
Ancient Kmt was based on this inner knowing, very unlike our own outer-oriented one. The ancient Kmtians were aware of the limitations of purely cerebral consciousness, the Set mind that "granulates" experience into fragments of time and space and is behind our increasing abuse of nature and of each other. Granulated experience produces our familiar world of disconnected things, each a kind of "island reality."
2. Language is not a simple means of communication, but as an interface between people and with the divine. The universe life is part of a "Great Chain of Being". From the lowest particle to the greatest deity, all partake of certain characteristics and are linked together into a great scheme of existence. The foundations of this bridge of resonance are within sacred letters and numbers, with vibrations and harmonics. Ancient Kmt had an underlying symbolic code, a magnificent numerical system, which operated as an initiated form of language.
3. KMTian Wisdom thought of Heaven as the seat of the Neters, that is to say, the creative Causes or agents of continuous creation and the principles which through reflection into the earthly world maintained its existence. Temples were conceived of as the seats of the Neters, each a dwelling-place of the particular Principle to which each of them was dedicated.
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Re: KMT Ontology and Cosmogenesis
Mon, May 5, 2008 - 10:38 PMWith no basis for any of these conclusions they're just fantasy fiction.
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 10:39 PM
Cosmos before the Present Universe
1. Early KMTic thinkers grappled with the questions of existence, origins, knowledge of the world, the cosmos, and how they came into being. The philosophical implications of grappling with questions of existence by relying on observations of material world were tremendous. For one, the cosmology, philosophy and world view that evolved to characterize this ancient people were firmly rooted in material reality; they did not make up explanations and understandings of the world around them; rather they observed the lessons directly from nature. These practices laid the foundation for the sciences and the building of civilization.
2. Cosmology: Before all, there existed Nwn, a watery abyss, absolute in essence, which already contained all primary matter. That matter was posited in the form of water extended, quite naturally, from their experiences along the Nile [this was a civilization that evolved along the Nile]. In time, matter would gain consciousness of itself and manifest itself as creation. The creative essence emerges from within Nwn and begins the work of creation. There is no independent creator standing over and apart from creation; rather the source of creation exists within creation itself.
3. In the beginning there is matter (water), in a form apparently inchoate, obscure, abyssal, yet potentially powerful, dynamic, creative, innovative, a generative source. Right from the start, matter is posited (in the form of primal water) at the origins of the universe; this primordial matter was in a form qualitatively different than what would later emerge from (be born of) it.
NOTE in KMT Water means also Emotions
4. Modern science suggests that the universe originated in a manner similar to African Kmt's cosmology, though not in water. African Kmt's error (the primordial matter was liquid) was due to their technological development at the time.
5. The most important thing to note is that they posited matter prior to anything else.
6. That the Nile was so central to their existence, it was natural that water would come to represent the primordial mass called Nwn. Nwn-primal matter, primal, abyssal water. Atum, Re represented the creative reason (and consciousness), which then gave rise to all of creation [philosophical implications-reason, intelligence organizes chaos.
7. We cannot understand the world around us without having developed a set of strategies, tools, categories, concepts that permit us to take in sensual stimuli, mentally organize it, understand it, and respond appropriately. This process (of intelligent understanding) requires the existence of a language that permits members of a population to communicate with one another about reality. -
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 10:41 PM
Seed Time of the Cosmos
1. Human intelligence normally strives to understand how all that exists came to be.
2. Matter is posited first, although it has no thematic form. Matter, through its interaction with intelligent consciousness becomes involved in a process of becoming.
3. The concept of this inchoate primordial mass was a sort of spatial medium antedating space and time. Everything-all of reality as we know it-would ultimately emerge from this "originating medium" and within it; this reality explored and exploited by human ingenuity.
4. Nwn: This spatial medium was not yet capable of expressing the real and the imperceptible; it predated the world, itself uncreated, but adaptable as the raw material for creation; this was an ungenerated, uncreated reality that was neither born nor created - if African Kmt considered Nwn as neither born nor created, then it suggests a couple of things: (1) that they recognized that they did not have an answer, or (2) that reality comes into existence on its own (self-generation), or (3) acceptance, at a certain point, of reality (fate), things are as they are.
5. Menes unified northern and southern African Kmt under a peraa institution; a coherent organization for channeling and harnessing the waters of the Nile through systematic irrigation, accompanied by a writing system useful for regulating ceremonies and rituals, setting the calendar, and communicating the Peraa's messages across great distances. All at once, African Kmt created a set of impressive architectural constructions.
6. At this time, the earliest philosophy emerged; just as rigorous and vigorous as the geometry of the pyramids, precise as the peraa ritual. The African Kmt thought system, which laid the foundations and erected the scaffoldings for temple architecture, was a decisive organizational influence on the construction of the pyramids. -
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 10:43 PM
Nwn: The Primal Waters
1. The beginning of all beginnings was Nwn, the primal, absolute mass of water, container of all seed, home to all creative potential. It was reality before the universe we know, already pregnant with the ‘raw material' of creation in a latent state.
2. In the cosmogony of The Book of Coming Forth by Day, it was within the primordial chaos that the demiurge achieved consciousness of itself. Only after that rise to self-consciousness did the demiurge come into real existence, on its own and by itself. Then it began to work.
3. Everything in the world had a starting point, a genesis, with the exception of Nwn; Nwn was the uncreated reality of moist, watery, abyssal depths, fecundating and creative.
4.In African philosophy, the concept of water is the logical outflow from the lived experience of the African environment. All stream outward from the great cosmic waters, flowing into the real world as a generous force working to seed the earth, touching all it reaches with it s animating vitality. Water is and water lets be.
5. Water is the drought-ending energy that clears the way for the active life, season after season, day after vital day, in a tireless cycle.
6.Nwn is not simply a name for some inert, primal abyss, rather it flows across space and time. The Great Waters are constantly revived, and new life born out of their quickening flow.
7. Nwn is a structural concept, a vehicle of progress. The concept of Nwn infuses historical meaning and human intelligence in the present, while retaining its immanent status. -
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 10:45 PM
Primal Egg
1. The cosmic egg, represents the morning of the nascent world, the world in the state of becoming
2. The egg represents the concept of completeness, perfection, wholeness-of purity, youth and life. By the same token, it evokes the future, the world about to be born from it.
Basic Elements: Water, Fire, and Air
1. In African Kmt philosophy, there is no opposition between ‘matter' and ‘spirit.' Nature is a whole, within which matter and consciousness are merged. Water is a substance; living water is a germinating force, an energy, a divinity. Matter and spirit are different manifestations of reality.
2. The objective object is inseparable from the subjective subject.
3. Because it was a living system of thought, African Kmt philosophy is frequently identified with religion; this is not justified. -
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 10:48 PM
Ontology and Cosmogenesis
1. From the moment it exists, That Which Is causes being to come into existence
2. Through its own power, its own energy and movement, that That Which Is comes into existence; it engenders itself, from itself
3. It is the Absolute, that which exists by itself, from the beginning, before Creation
4. That Which Is causes the other modes of existence to come into being through love and through its own will, being alone by its own power. Being is absolute, it is also love and will
5. Being is in addition, and above all, reason. Being designs projects in its heart; in complete, lucid consciousness
6. Reason encompasses the entire design, then the creative plan presents itself before the Creative one, in front of it, completely visible, with no confusion. Creation is a clear concept, neat, distinct, unambiguous to the Creator, who is absolute love, will and reason, an active energy, the very essence of efficiency, master of the whole
7. Through Creation, the existence of What Is gets multiplied, becomes a fecundating process, is diversified
8. Creation is an enterprise of beginnings, and, in a sense, proof of the existence of what is to demonstrate one's existence means to cause to come into being other modes of existence; it means to create, to produce
9. In African Kmt, the heart was the seat of intelligence, reason, and intellectual perception-what is conceived in the heart is uttered by the mouth
10. In the beginning there was reason, followed later by the word-the Demiurge first conceives what is to be and then causes the palpable existence by pronouncing the actual name of that which is invoked into existence through the power of the word, the efficacy of creative utterance
11. Nwn was imagined as what existed before the ordered, organized universe came into existence after the emergence of Ra (consciousness), on its own, in Nwn as ‘being in a state of becoming
12. Nwn, the basis and reason for all subsequent becoming. It is the same time the matrial cause, the formal cause, the effective cause ad the final cause of everything, of the gods and of their creatures. It is the undifferentiated absolute, with no describable or knowable form.
13. Yet Nwn is the ground of Ra's being, and existence comes into beging from the manifested existence of Ra
14. Nwn is the principle at the root os all principles, the foundation of all foundation; Nwn itself derives from no foundation
15. Some commentators have misconstrued all significant African Kmt texts as religious documents; African KMTologists have a duty to combat this generalized tendency. Evidence indicates it is the result of prejudiced assumptions, no less dangerous for being implicit
16. The reality is that ancient Kemites reflected on being, life, death, etc.
17. The African Kmt scarab, a highly typical symbol, occurs and recurs whenever the issue is the creation of Being and all that exists: Kheper, to be, to exist; kheper-djes-ef, he who came into existence by himself; kheperu, modes of existence of Being; kheperi, Being or What Is.
18. The vision is of creation as a continuous process, sustained to the end of time. The implication is of a universe in perpetual transformation, incessantly changing. It is of a universe always active, perennially creative. Within it, however, all elements, all beings and all things, begin necessarily from earlier, unique forms. Here we have a conception of the universe as a continuous process of creation, the cosmos as one immense, uninterrupted creative gesture.
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Tue, May 6, 2008 - 3:15 AMMore waffle, a nice pretty story, but that's all. -
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Re: KMT Ontology and Cosmogenesis
Tue, May 6, 2008 - 8:07 PMThat's like saying, "I'm gonna just dip in my little toe and then say the water just aint right for swimming."
Cowardly. And to make a judgment on top of it. Uninformed.
Is there some difficulty in allowing ideas to stand alone, without
our pre-emptive judgment deciding rashly that they don't appeal to us?
If I had the time, I would explore further. Maybe I will later. -
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Re: KMT Ontology and Cosmogenesis
Tue, May 6, 2008 - 8:08 PMFace it, your reality is as narrow as you will it to be.
If that is pleasing enough for you, then fine.
But certainly no reason to declare something worthless
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Tue, May 6, 2008 - 10:55 PMHow about because it's wrong? -
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 6:01 AMooo! 2 votes for because its wrong! -
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 8:13 AM
Coming Back Around Again
It is said that this part of the cosmos came to be 21 billion years ago, billions of years in order to bring us to this moment of truth. How long does one of us live: 1 year, 5 years, 10 years, 50 years, 100? Much less the simple twinkling of an eye in light years? Kmt understood the new road to traverse; our Innocent Ones assumed responsibility for starting the world's civilization. They held on for over 4000 years, while making wonderful contributions to the foundations of life, living, and learning.
All that is born dies, nothing lasts forever. The ancients saw natural death as but a transition to new life of another kind. Un-natural death, however, tears apart life and leaves much pain and suffering. The destruction of Black civilization in Kmt was unnatural and unforgiving. Today even the walls of ancient temples still standing cry out for justice---a justice that only the sober, sound soul of indigenous Black populations descending from that great African civilization can bring about in this world and in this lifetime. But they must be free of their white, Arab, and Jew enslaver's ideologies, beliefs, and religions.
Over centuries one point became clear: Brute force, murderous zeal, clever-cunning-killers were too formidable. In waves they came, spanning 2700 years. In time, that advanced African civilization was put to sleep for over 2000 years, picked through like vultures pick through dead bodies on a warm desert morning. The tables were turned: the first became last, and the last became first. Much time passed and much of what was the best that Africans had offered humanity came to an end with the centuries of predation/pillage forced upon Africans. Over 500 years ago, our great ancestors answered like no other in face of the Holocaust of Black Enslavement. Our great ones produced standards of heart never to be matched because in face of the enslavers, carrying Bibles, Korans, and Torahs, they believed in their own ancestors and not the slave brute's gods. Appreciate this.
There was a time that our ancestors faced being tossed to sharks without white/Arab religions; most did not even speak the enslaver's language, and did not read the enslaver's writing. They knew nothing of their religions, gods, or mystical stuff---only that these murderers, rapers of children, killers of babies, and breeders of women were enslaving them in the most wasteful misuse of human life and potential ever forced upon any people in world history. We are here because our wonderful Black ancestors had historical clear visions, foresaw the centuries, showed us hundreds of years in brief pages, and completed their mission and role. Now is our time.
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 9:26 AMOpinions. Everyone has one. -
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 10:28 AMWorm: "Opinions. Everyone has one."
There are some things that are not a matter of opinion. What exactly are you saying is a matter of opinion here?
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 11:46 AMOne's opinion of the past and how we got here.
The nature of reality. The disposition of the facts.
The notion that there are any. The illusion of matter.
The necessity that it be real to us. It's a consensus reality,
to me at least.
I'm not really concerned at all. Progression is happening.
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 11:48 AMI'm really starting to bore of this tribe.
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 12:06 PMWormhole: "The nature of reality."
Are you saying that the nature of reality is a matter of opinion?
Wormhole: "I'm really starting to bore of this tribe."
Well, it has its ups and downs. Perhaps you should raise a subject that is very interesting to you.
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 1:20 PMReality is not subjective, if you don't believe this submit yourself to the baseball bat subjective reality test. -
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 1:41 PMSo you are gauging your reality based on pain? -
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 2:27 PM
Sure he is ...without Subjective there is no Objective...the world is only because of your awareness of it -
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 2:51 PMThe objective exists regardless of subjectivity and without it.
The world is, our awareness may be subjective but that doesn't alter the objective reality of it.
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 8:20 PMGodstar: "...the world is only because of your awareness of it."
The world predates awareness.
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 8:44 PM
"The world predates awareness."
Changeling, would you like to elaborate on this? ...careful -
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Re: KMT Ontology and Cosmogenesis
Thu, May 8, 2008 - 7:29 PMI think she meant pre-dates rather than predates, as in predation...
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Re: KMT Ontology and Cosmogenesis
Wed, May 7, 2008 - 2:50 PMThe point is that no matter how hard you believe otherwise, you're going to get a smack in the chops. Your belief doesn't alter reality. -
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 3:47 PM
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 3:53 PMwo: So you are gauging your reality based on pain?
That is one of the purposes of pain, to tell you when your fantasy and lack of attention are starting to cause you physical damage. -
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 7:28 PMBullshit.
I feel no pain.
And I should. I'm telling you straight up I should.
I simply refuse to. -
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no pain
Wed, May 7, 2008 - 8:54 PMWormhole: "I feel no pain...I simply refuse to."
Sorry, but I just cannot believe that without seeing a demonstration. Give me your address and I'll come around with the bat. :-)
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Re: no pain
Thu, May 8, 2008 - 12:01 PMOh, is it bat time people?
Is this what happens when you no longer want to stretch your minds,
you get angry and want to hurt someone? Well, guess what?!
Step right up! What weenies!
And yet I know why... you like to release your energies quickly.
Most expeditious..
{Same bat time... same bat channel}
Pull my hair, little girl sez, I like it! -
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Thu, May 8, 2008 - 12:59 PMWormhole: "Is this what happens when you no longer want to stretch your minds,
you get angry and want to hurt someone?"
Actually I was going to hand the bat to you and let you demonstrate for me. :-)
And I don't think you really thought the comment was made in anger, out of a desire to harm you. It was intended to be humorous, as I'm sure you realize.
But seriously, I don't think I should be expected to simply accept your claim that you do not feel any pain because you choose not to. What can you do to establish that this claim is valid?
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What is pain?
Thu, May 8, 2008 - 2:22 PMSemantics...
How should I know a woman is orgasming while I make love to her?
Why would it matter to you if I did or didn't?
It's all just sensation. You think I really discriminate there?
Why should I prove my statements are valid?
To give you some purchase so you can ride my consciousness?
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Thu, May 8, 2008 - 3:08 PMwo: How should I know a woman is orgasming while I make love to her?
Its not that hard.
wo: Why would it matter to you if I did or didn't?
I depends. In this case since you are making claims based on "no pain" substantiating that claim matters.
wo: It's all just sensation. You think I really discriminate there?
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Thu, May 8, 2008 - 7:28 PMOK, the old back anda forth, is it, you want?
When I said that (woman orgasming) do you think that was actually what I was talking about?
You'd be wrong. I was using that as an example.
If this is 20 questions, but you really don't want to learn anything from me, why are we doing it?
Endless games...
When I say 'it's all just sensation' do you think I really care whether someone classifies
whether it appears to be pain or pleasure to their eyes?
Is this a stag hunt? What's for dinner? -
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Re: What is pain?
Fri, May 9, 2008 - 5:54 AMWo: OK, the old back anda forth, is it, you want?
No, but since it is all you have I'm game.
wo: When I said that ...
If you can't figure out even that much what good are you?
wo: When I say 'it's all just sensation' do you think I really care whether someone classifies
whether it appears to be pain or pleasure to their eyes?
It is obvious you do as much as it is obvious you'd pretend other wise if you could.
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Re: no pain
Fri, May 9, 2008 - 5:58 AM"Do you really need to 'believe'?"
I don't.
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Re: no pain
Fri, May 9, 2008 - 8:10 AMThis is a weird threesome.
I'm not into it.
When one person has a specific idea as to what they post,
what the associations are around what they say, but others
want it to mean what they would like it to mean, what does
that say of the others? IOW, if my choice of words is loose,
and the connection-identifiers are particular in my head, yet
I allow you free rein to interpret it as you wish, without ever
getting offended, how much does that say about my liking
for you?
Perhaps I will go back and stimulate Chaz by looking in on
what it was he wanted reaction to.
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